Mayor of London Boris Johnson orders feasibility study into how Sutton Tramlink would work

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The Mayor of London has ordered Transport for London (TfL) to look at the viability of bringing trams to Sutton as part of plans to extend the network.

Boris Johnson has asked TfL to carry out a feasibility study to see how the tram system would be extended to the borough.

Last week representatives from TfL walked along a proposed route which could see the town centre linked to St Helier Hospital and potentially Mitcham or Wimbledon.

Boris Johnson wrote to London Assembly member Steve O'Connell this week to tell him Sutton was one of three "potential priorities" for extending the network.

TfL has drawn up a strategy on how to improve the Tramlink network and in it possible extensions to Sutton, Crystal Palace and Bromley have been identified.

However, Crystal Palace appears to be at the forefront of the Mayor's plans as he believes it is most "developed in terms of feasibility," although he said he would be "keen to see these extensions go ahead."

TfL is now looking at the engineering infrastructure in the borough as well as potential costs and benefits.

No cost has yet been set but a similar extension to the existing 28km light rail system planned to Crystal Palace was put between £62m and £170m.

Mr O'Connell, who lobbied the Mayor on behalf of the borough, said the tram has been at the top of everyone's wish list for Sutton.

He said: "The tram will give Sutton the transport infrastructure it has deserved for a long time and give its residents access to a 21st century transport network.

It would link the town centre to St Helier Hospital and give people better connectivity and make it easier to get to Wimbledon and Croydon."

Councillor Ruth Dombey, leader of Sutton Council, said: "We have lobbied very hard to bring Tramlink to Sutton. Representatives of TfL came to the borough at our invitation and we walked them along the possible route to show the huge benefits that the trams would bring."

Conservative councillor Tim Crowley said: "I am delighted that Boris Johnson after extensive lobbying from local Conservatives and our GLA member Steve O Connell has today decided to make good on his promise made to me in Sutton before the Mayoral elections and has fired the starting gun on the process of getting Tramlink to Sutton."

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11:12am Thu 18 Oct 12

Mordenman says...

Fantastic idea - but the infrastructure already exists. The "Sutton loop" on the Thameslink service is a massively underused twin track railway that already links Wimbledon - St Helier & Sutton. Instead of spending thousands pound on consultants, why not run "metro" type trains alongside the existing longer distance trains?
Fantastic idea - but the infrastructure already exists. The "Sutton loop" on the Thameslink service is a massively underused twin track railway that already links Wimbledon - St Helier & Sutton. Instead of spending thousands pound on consultants, why not run "metro" type trains alongside the existing longer distance trains? Mordenman
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3:14pm Thu 18 Oct 12

imalaydee says...

Sutton already has a fantastic network of buses to take them anywhere they wish to go, you can get the S4 from the top of the High St. to St. Helier, (and the Royal Marsden the other way), or the 154 to Rosehill roundabout and it is a 5 minute walk to the Hospital, you can also get the 154 from Sutton to Croydon in 20 minutes, and even over to Kingston and up into London, also it is 10 minutes to Morden Tube by bus or get the Railway, by all means if Sutton wants the Tram then fine, but they should realise how lucky they are with regard to transport already compared with other parts of the Borough and should be warned what it is like to have the tramways built, the Croydon one was a nightmare!!!
Sutton already has a fantastic network of buses to take them anywhere they wish to go, you can get the S4 from the top of the High St. to St. Helier, (and the Royal Marsden the other way), or the 154 to Rosehill roundabout and it is a 5 minute walk to the Hospital, you can also get the 154 from Sutton to Croydon in 20 minutes, and even over to Kingston and up into London, also it is 10 minutes to Morden Tube by bus or get the Railway, by all means if Sutton wants the Tram then fine, but they should realise how lucky they are with regard to transport already compared with other parts of the Borough and should be warned what it is like to have the tramways built, the Croydon one was a nightmare!!! imalaydee
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5:26pm Thu 18 Oct 12

tonypattison says...

Wonderful. This long-awaited extension to the network is long overdue and will really put Sutton the map and take thousands of cars off the road - trams have a proven record of being better at attracting car drivers in an urban situation than other modes.
The route has been chosed carefully and has to serve St Helier hospital.
We've had our hands up for a number of years - I think we've been seen now and trams in Sutton will soon be a reality!
Wonderful. This long-awaited extension to the network is long overdue and will really put Sutton the map and take thousands of cars off the road - trams have a proven record of being better at attracting car drivers in an urban situation than other modes. The route has been chosed carefully and has to serve St Helier hospital. We've had our hands up for a number of years - I think we've been seen now and trams in Sutton will soon be a reality! tonypattison
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5:35pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Michael Pantlin says...

It's easy now to connect with Croydon and Wimbledon via Tramlink using the excellent S1 bus to Mitcham Junction Tramlink stop. How many of our wonderful "go everywhere" hoppa bus routes will be downgraded when a Sutton Tram carries all traffic from the bottom of Sutton via the High Street to the top? I doubt the planners will finance the massive duplication and will be likely to reconfigure everything. Don't forget either any break in the track or overhead means suspension of the whole tram service. As for running the tram to St. Helier Hospital, the current BSBV plan is to shut most of it so what will be the point of having a tram go there?
It's easy now to connect with Croydon and Wimbledon via Tramlink using the excellent S1 bus to Mitcham Junction Tramlink stop. How many of our wonderful "go everywhere" hoppa bus routes will be downgraded when a Sutton Tram carries all traffic from the bottom of Sutton via the High Street to the top? I doubt the planners will finance the massive duplication and will be likely to reconfigure everything. Don't forget either any break in the track or overhead means suspension of the whole tram service. As for running the tram to St. Helier Hospital, the current BSBV plan is to shut most of it so what will be the point of having a tram go there? Michael Pantlin
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5:43pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Michael Pantlin says...

It's easy now to connect with Croydon and Wimbledon via Tramlink using the excellent S1 bus to Mitcham Junction Tramlink stop. How many of our wonderful "go everywhere" hoppa bus routes will be downgraded when a Sutton Tram carries all traffic from the bottom of Sutton via the High Street to the top? I doubt the planners will finance the massive duplication and will be likely to reconfigure everything. Don't forget either any break in the track or overhead means suspension of the whole tram service. As for running the tram to St. Helier Hospital, the current BSBV plan is to shut most of it so what will be the point of having a tram go there?
It's easy now to connect with Croydon and Wimbledon via Tramlink using the excellent S1 bus to Mitcham Junction Tramlink stop. How many of our wonderful "go everywhere" hoppa bus routes will be downgraded when a Sutton Tram carries all traffic from the bottom of Sutton via the High Street to the top? I doubt the planners will finance the massive duplication and will be likely to reconfigure everything. Don't forget either any break in the track or overhead means suspension of the whole tram service. As for running the tram to St. Helier Hospital, the current BSBV plan is to shut most of it so what will be the point of having a tram go there? Michael Pantlin
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5:44pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Michael Pantlin says...

Would be nice to have the 654 trolleybus back Sutton to Crystal Palace.
Would be nice to have the 654 trolleybus back Sutton to Crystal Palace. Michael Pantlin
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6:02pm Thu 18 Oct 12

Michael Pantlin says...

The Boris Buses cost 736% more than a normal London bus. Anyone know how much more each Boris Tram will cost us over a standard London Tramlink tram?
The Boris Buses cost 736% more than a normal London bus. Anyone know how much more each Boris Tram will cost us over a standard London Tramlink tram? Michael Pantlin
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11:07am Fri 19 Oct 12

Googol says...

Yes, it may be a little painful coping with the work to put the lines in, but don't overlook the fantastic success of the original routes to Wimbledon and New Addington, which were well-used from Day One. Trams are much faster than buses, and everyone on the routes will enjoy a greatly improved travel service.
Yes, it may be a little painful coping with the work to put the lines in, but don't overlook the fantastic success of the original routes to Wimbledon and New Addington, which were well-used from Day One. Trams are much faster than buses, and everyone on the routes will enjoy a greatly improved travel service. Googol
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3:03pm Fri 19 Oct 12

sfocata says...

Would this really make any difference? The main reason buses are so slow and inefficient is because they have to share congested roads with private transport... although trams will often get right of way, won't they have many of the same problems? There doesn't seem to be much scope for dedicated tram lanes on the routes under discussion.

Mordenman seems to have the right of it... Metro-style light railway on the loop.
Would this really make any difference? The main reason buses are so slow and inefficient is because they have to share congested roads with private transport... although trams will often get right of way, won't they have many of the same problems? There doesn't seem to be much scope for dedicated tram lanes on the routes under discussion. Mordenman seems to have the right of it... Metro-style light railway on the loop. sfocata
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7:54am Sat 20 Oct 12

tjames says...

tell the private sector to fund and build and run it--no subsidy other than freedom pass. it would not happen as it is NOT financially viable. But OPM--hey lets build it--if you are interested in successful public sector tram building, google "edinburgh trams"
tell the private sector to fund and build and run it--no subsidy other than freedom pass. it would not happen as it is NOT financially viable. But OPM--hey lets build it--if you are interested in successful public sector tram building, google "edinburgh trams" tjames
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