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Mosquito ban would be 'backward'

7:38am Friday 15th February 2008

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A Hounslow police inspector said it would be a "backward step" to ban a controversial device used to stop teens causing trouble on the streets.

This week the children's commissioner for England Sir Al Aynsley-Green called for police and councils to stop using the Mosquito.

“I think it would be a backward step if the ability to use them is taken away. ”

Inspector for Heston and Cranford Steven Edwards

The small mobile device, which can be fixed to walls, emits a high-pitched sound that is painful to under 25-year-olds.

Sir Aynsley-Green said: "These devices are indiscriminate and target all children and young people, including babies, regardless of whether they are behaving or misbehaving.

"The use of measures such as these are simply demonising children and young people, creating a dangerous and widening divide between the young and the old."

He said that it did not respect the UN's convention on the Rights of the Child, adding: "This has to end now."

The Buzz Off campaign, which is supported by the commissioner, is encouraging youngsters from across the country affected by the device to give feedback on their thoughts.

Inspector for Heston and Cranford Steven Edwards disagreed, saying that the Mosquito would only be used in Hounslow borough on rare occasions after repeated reports of antisocial behaviour at a specific spot. He said it would then switched off once the youngsters had left.

He said: "It is use is intelligence-led and not indiscriminate.

"The impression people seem to have is that you put it on the wall, you turn it on and you leave it there for ever - that's not true.

"I think it would be a backward step if the ability to use them is taken away. "


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ric, kingston says...
8:18am Fri 15 Feb 08

i heard some woman harping on about this saying it was inhumane

whats and beating someone to death like gary newlove isnt.

makes me sick. if the kids behave you dont turn it on. if they do you leave it off.

sounds like a perfectly good system. the guy who came up with it deserves a medal.

ric, kingston says...
8:20am Fri 15 Feb 08

sorry i meant if they do mis behave turn it on.

lol idiot....haha


Sarah, Surrey says...
9:25am Fri 15 Feb 08

Oh dear ric, I think you have missed the point.
This device is used in areas where "nimbys" exist & usually get their own way. They dont want the kids hanging around so this device is deployed - moving the kids on to somewhere else. Does it give them something to do? Does it teach them to be good citizens? No it is simply teaching them "whatever you dont like, use whatever means you can get away with, to get rid of it" & people wonder why kids gang together & why bullying persists in this country! Instead of having a sensible plan to tackle the groeing issues of understimulated, undereducated, underachieving youth of today - we (who are supposedly a "civilised" country) employ technology to move the problem on! WELL DONE!!!!

ric, kingston says...
10:48am Fri 15 Feb 08

hang on a second your blaming all the problems in kids today on a device that has only been around a short while. how do you figure that one.

this device is proven to work. so use it.

this will force the kids to go hang around in a park where they are out the way. instead of standing around outside shops giving everyone abuse.

bullying and gangs are down to parenting. being taught whats right and whats wrong.

the problem is with the parents.

once your sorted out the parenting problems devices like this would be removed.

this is coming from someone who used to hang round in gangs causing trouble.


Sarah,, Surrey says...
11:56am Fri 15 Feb 08

ric wrote:
hang on a second your blaming all the problems in kids today on a device that has only been around a short while. how do you figure that one. this device is proven to work. so use it. this will force the kids to go hang around in a park where they are out the way. instead of standing around outside shops giving everyone abuse. bullying and gangs are down to parenting. being taught whats right and whats wrong. the problem is with the parents. once your sorted out the parenting problems devices like this would be removed. this is coming from someone who used to hang round in gangs causing trouble.
I havent stated I am blaming the device - I am angry that this is a "Quick Fix" for a growing problem & one that will just cause a worsening of that problem. As a person that used to hang around in gangs you should be all to aware that not every Gang member is the product of a broken home or indeed bad parenting. I would suggest a major cause is sheer boredom & peer pressure. Also I would hasten to add that not every group of young people is a "gang". the problem is that the media & politicians use the word Gang to lump these kids together. Most I am greatful to say are just bored kids, hanging around, trying to find something to do & somewhere to go. As the parent of 3 well adjusted teens, who hang around with friends, & quite often get abused by bus drivers & shopkeepers, simply because they are teens, it is outrageous that the government can fund electronic dispersal devices & not youth centers & youth projects. (ah but, the latter would be more open to public scrutiny & less of a quick win!)

Jean, Merton says...
3:22pm Fri 15 Feb 08

A bas l'Angleterre!

Groz, Hampshire says...
3:35pm Fri 15 Feb 08

I have a Mosquito on my house. I put it up because yobs hung in big groups outside all through the night, some taking drugs, most drinking heavily. Yes Sarah, it would be great if they found better things to do. But by putting this (expensive to my own cost) device up, they don't take drugs and drink outside my house any more. Perhaps I have done them a favour - they are seeing a little bit more of the world now?
When I was a teen, I stopped myself from getting bored by having hobbies (all free) and doing a paperround. I was accused by many of my peers as being 'gay' for not being boring like them and hanging out doing nothing. As sson as society starts to recognise the individual as something important rather that honouring conformity, then we will crack this probem.

Sarah, Surrey says...
4:02pm Fri 15 Feb 08

NIMBY'S

groz, Hampshire says...
11:11pm Fri 15 Feb 08

NIMBY's


Sorry to offend Sarah. I should have just tollorated the broken nights sleep, the littering, the broken bottles, the swearing, the vandalism. What was I thinking? Everyone should have a neighbourhood like this!
I really should be greateful for what lovely things these kids do to me and my family.
I really shouldn't be such a NIMBY. Perhaps I should take these kids some extra bottles and give them some cash too. Maybe invite them in so they can do the same to the inside of my house as they do to the outside, I'll tell you what, I'll just hand over my keys to them, let them have the place to use as they like? Is that what I should do?

Is this really what it has come too? People break the law, but because they are under 18, we have insults thrown at us if we dare to stand up to it?

Not all kids are bad. Most are good law abiding citizens. But some are VERY VERY VERY bad. Stop these bad kids and the parents that are leading them down this route, and it gets a whole lot better for all of us (including teens, children and all).
Hide real crime behind the words 'they are just being kids' and you go down a slippery slope where you can explain away anything with the age someone is.

Kids need to know what is acceptable and what is not. Drinking alcohol and taking drugs outside my house, vandalising, littering, making a racket at 2am is unneccesary, unacceptable and illegal. Comments like yours only exasperate the problem by confusing otherwise law abiding children into doing what is wrong.

Sarah, Surrey says...
1:07pm Sat 16 Feb 08

groz wrote:
NIMBY\'s
Sorry to offend Sarah. I should have just tollorated the broken nights sleep, the littering, the broken bottles, the swearing, the vandalism. What was I thinking? Everyone should have a neighbourhood like this! I really should be greateful for what lovely things these kids do to me and my family. I really shouldn\'t be such a NIMBY. Perhaps I should take these kids some extra bottles and give them some cash too. Maybe invite them in so they can do the same to the inside of my house as they do to the outside, I\'ll tell you what, I\'ll just hand over my keys to them, let them have the place to use as they like? Is that what I should do? Is this really what it has come too? People break the law, but because they are under 18, we have insults thrown at us if we dare to stand up to it? Not all kids are bad. Most are good law abiding citizens. But some are VERY VERY VERY bad. Stop these bad kids and the parents that are leading them down this route, and it gets a whole lot better for all of us (including teens, children and all). Hide real crime behind the words \'they are just being kids\' and you go down a slippery slope where you can explain away anything with the age someone is. Kids need to know what is acceptable and what is not. Drinking alcohol and taking drugs outside my house, vandalising, littering, making a racket at 2am is unneccesary, unacceptable and illegal. Comments like yours only exasperate the problem by confusing otherwise law abiding children into doing what is wrong.
LOL< I live in London Groz & believe me the problems are a million times worse than tin Hampshire - My Point is a Nimby is someone who doesnt care where a problem is, as long as they dont have to deal with it! & this is precisly what is happening with the introduction of these "mosquito's". If you really want to stop the behaviour you are talking about, do you think moving it on 2-3 hundred meters is the way? Come on UK, Wake up - we have a terrible problem, but no one wants to tackle it...

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