Former AFC Wimbledon manager Dave Anderson urges MK Dons to DROP THE DONS

Dave Anderson:

Dave Anderson: "I went through the pain that supporters of the club went through.2

First published in Drop The Dons by

AFC Wimbledon’s former manager has backed our Drop the Dons campaign and urged “true football fans” to sign the petition.

Dave Anderson was appointed manager by former chairman Kris Stewart in 2004, leading the club to league promotion and a Surrey Senior Cup win in his first season, before being succeeded by current manager Terry Brown in 2007.

During that time, he said, he was “deeply moved” by the stories he heard from Wimbledon fans about how their former club Wimbledon FC was sold off and relocated to Milton Keynes.

He said: “I think that they should give back everything that belonged to the club. They have given back the trophies and medals, now it is time for them to give back the Dons.

“They are slowly but surely trying to buy off what actually happened; dropping the Dons surely needs to be the next part of it.”

He rebuffed suggestions made by MK Dons fans that keeping the Dons nickname was a mark of respect to recognise the club used to be Wimbledon FC.

He said: “That’s the equivalent of slaughtering a tribe and putting the chief’s head on a pike outside the city gates.

“No, that argument is a cop out and I don’t believe anyone think that could be true. Some of them will look for something to cling to but it’s nonsense really.

“I went through the pain that supporters of the club went through.

"Their club was taken from them. How can anyone claim to be a true football fan without recognising that?”

Mr Anderson was one of the first names to sign the petition we launched last Thursday, which calls on MK Dons to drop the Dons from their name.

So far it has been signed by more than 750 people, including many from Milton Keynes who also recognise the football club should drop the Dons.

Stuart Crosbie, who signed the petition last week, told us: "I'm from MK and while I feel the team has been sensitive to the past glories of Wimbledon by giving afcw there history etc so it's wrong to say there not being sensitive to [Wimbledon FC].

"But I sign this petition mainly because I've never wanted the Dons as part of the clubs name!"

Click here to sign the petition for MK dons to DROP THE DONS!

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12:10pm Wed 18 Jan 12

rob_c says...

Are those spelling errors Stuart Crosbie's or the Guardian's? Either way, I think it would be polite to correct them in the quote!
Are those spelling errors Stuart Crosbie's or the Guardian's? Either way, I think it would be polite to correct them in the quote! rob_c
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11:21pm Wed 18 Jan 12

MK Fan says...

"Wimbledon FC was sold off" - Not true! It entered administration whilst still at Selhurst Park.

"They have given back the trophies and medals" - Not true! They were presented to the Borough of Merton.

"give back the Dons" - It's not anyone's to demand back. It's a term used by several groups of people worldwide and is not "owned" by anyone.

"Their club was taken from them" - Not true! AFC Wimbledon was formed BEFORE the move. Not one attempt was made to buy Wimbledon out of administration whilst the club was still based in Selhurst Park.

A ridiculous campaign with just 750 signatures in a week (representing just 20% of the average support at AFC Wimbledon.

You're time would be better spent campaigning for AFC to move to Wimbledon. Or was Mr Koppel right all along?
"Wimbledon FC was sold off" - Not true! It entered administration whilst still at Selhurst Park. "They have given back the trophies and medals" - Not true! They were presented to the Borough of Merton. "give back the Dons" - It's not anyone's to demand back. It's a term used by several groups of people worldwide and is not "owned" by anyone. "Their club was taken from them" - Not true! AFC Wimbledon was formed BEFORE the move. Not one attempt was made to buy Wimbledon out of administration whilst the club was still based in Selhurst Park. A ridiculous campaign with just 750 signatures in a week (representing just 20% of the average support at AFC Wimbledon. You're time would be better spent campaigning for AFC to move to Wimbledon. Or was Mr Koppel right all along? MK Fan
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7:40am Thu 19 Jan 12

BathWomble says...

Same old bitter lies from a Franchise customer I see. Your time would be better spent not living in the past but looking to the future. It's time Franchise stopped desperately clinging to a nickname link to the travesties of the past and recognised it's a team from Milton Keynes, not Wimbledon. Drop the Dons.
Same old bitter lies from a Franchise customer I see. Your time would be better spent not living in the past but looking to the future. It's time Franchise stopped desperately clinging to a nickname link to the travesties of the past and recognised it's a team from Milton Keynes, not Wimbledon. Drop the Dons. BathWomble
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9:22am Thu 19 Jan 12

Laurence1988 says...

MK Fan

I understand why you may not be in full possession of facts, and can accept that, since you are a new customer of Franchise FC, however, I must take you task on this point about 'buying' the club out of administration.

I was part of the consortium that offered to buy the club out of administration.

I was also part of OWFF - duly elected by fellow supporters and was there when we offered to buy the club from Charles Koppel and the Norwegians.

We offered that both before and after administration.

Not sure what OWFF is, do come back and ask? :o)
MK Fan I understand why you may not be in full possession of facts, and can accept that, since you are a new customer of Franchise FC, however, I must take you task on this point about 'buying' the club out of administration. I was part of the consortium that offered to buy the club out of administration. I was also part of OWFF - duly elected by fellow supporters and was there when we offered to buy the club from Charles Koppel and the Norwegians. We offered that both before and after administration. Not sure what OWFF is, do come back and ask? :o) Laurence1988
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12:35pm Thu 19 Jan 12

dons11 says...

owned
owned dons11
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6:12pm Thu 19 Jan 12

Wimbledon Womble says...

Well said Lawrence typical MK fan in denial of the facts. I would if they dropped the dons not have a problem with a Milton Keynes FC to an extent of course that extent being that any of their fans claim to have derived from Wimbledon FC. Furthermore, as you said Lawrence I am sure the majority or at least a large number of their fans are from MK and the surrounding area's and have no history with Wimbeldon at all and yet still claim to be Wimbledon is incredibly naive and wrong. Nonetheless, those fans who haven't betrayed Wimbledon FC but are supporting MK are perfectly entitled to do so. So long as they stop this claim that they are Wimbledon FC reborn which is undoubtedly long.

Somewhat like this comment sorry but it makes me very frustrated.
Well said Lawrence typical MK fan in denial of the facts. I would if they dropped the dons not have a problem with a Milton Keynes FC to an extent of course that extent being that any of their fans claim to have derived from Wimbledon FC. Furthermore, as you said Lawrence I am sure the majority or at least a large number of their fans are from MK and the surrounding area's and have no history with Wimbeldon at all and yet still claim to be Wimbledon is incredibly naive and wrong. Nonetheless, those fans who haven't betrayed Wimbledon FC but are supporting MK are perfectly entitled to do so. So long as they stop this claim that they are Wimbledon FC reborn which is undoubtedly long. Somewhat like this comment sorry but it makes me very frustrated. Wimbledon Womble
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11:37pm Fri 20 Jan 12

mk till i die says...

rob_c wrote:
Are those spelling errors Stuart Crosbie's or the Guardian's? Either way, I think it would be polite to correct them in the quote!
AFC are so sad by keep moaning about the MK Dons, if they loved their club so much then why didnt they fight to keep the club instead of lying down and letting it go, if i remember right they used to play at plough lane but sold that off for redevelopment and moved in to selhurst park, then they was talking of moving to ireland so much for being loyal. we sit next to some of the wimbledon fans that have embraced the move to MK so AFC grow up and shut up
[quote][p][bold]rob_c[/bold] wrote: Are those spelling errors Stuart Crosbie's or the Guardian's? Either way, I think it would be polite to correct them in the quote![/p][/quote]AFC are so sad by keep moaning about the MK Dons, if they loved their club so much then why didnt they fight to keep the club instead of lying down and letting it go, if i remember right they used to play at plough lane but sold that off for redevelopment and moved in to selhurst park, then they was talking of moving to ireland so much for being loyal. we sit next to some of the wimbledon fans that have embraced the move to MK so AFC grow up and shut up mk till i die
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12:12am Sat 21 Jan 12

BathWomble says...

mk till i die wrote:
rob_c wrote:
Are those spelling errors Stuart Crosbie's or the Guardian's? Either way, I think it would be polite to correct them in the quote!
AFC are so sad by keep moaning about the MK Dons, if they loved their club so much then why didnt they fight to keep the club instead of lying down and letting it go, if i remember right they used to play at plough lane but sold that off for redevelopment and moved in to selhurst park, then they was talking of moving to ireland so much for being loyal. we sit next to some of the wimbledon fans that have embraced the move to MK so AFC grow up and shut up
When are Franchise customers going to start educating their horribly misinformed children? When you see them capable of writing this sort of complete pack of lies, you realise the depths the customers are prepared to plumb in avoiding reality and the truth. Educate your children with the truth, not the lies from Koppel and Winkelman, and drop the Dons.
[quote][p][bold]mk till i die[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rob_c[/bold] wrote: Are those spelling errors Stuart Crosbie's or the Guardian's? Either way, I think it would be polite to correct them in the quote![/p][/quote]AFC are so sad by keep moaning about the MK Dons, if they loved their club so much then why didnt they fight to keep the club instead of lying down and letting it go, if i remember right they used to play at plough lane but sold that off for redevelopment and moved in to selhurst park, then they was talking of moving to ireland so much for being loyal. we sit next to some of the wimbledon fans that have embraced the move to MK so AFC grow up and shut up[/p][/quote]When are Franchise customers going to start educating their horribly misinformed children? When you see them capable of writing this sort of complete pack of lies, you realise the depths the customers are prepared to plumb in avoiding reality and the truth. Educate your children with the truth, not the lies from Koppel and Winkelman, and drop the Dons. BathWomble
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12:20am Sat 21 Jan 12

Scouse_DB says...

OK, listen you bunch of southern softies. wimbleDON or lonDON.

I think MK has every right to call themselves MK DONS due to the fact that it was an overspill from (wait for it) lon DON.

End of. You have no argument anymore. Cease and disperse. If you want another view from the sartirical side of things, you'd be a better person for seeking out this piece of archive (note to BW - you get a mention my love): http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=jbSroNAJu
5k&sns=em

Most of MK support a premier team just like all of lon DON. But their second teams aren't in the premiership!
OK, listen you bunch of southern softies. wimbleDON or lonDON. I think MK has every right to call themselves MK DONS due to the fact that it was an overspill from (wait for it) lon DON. End of. You have no argument anymore. Cease and disperse. If you want another view from the sartirical side of things, you'd be a better person for seeking out this piece of archive (note to BW - you get a mention my love): http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=jbSroNAJu 5k&sns=em Most of MK support a premier team just like all of lon DON. But their second teams aren't in the premiership! Scouse_DB
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7:47am Sat 21 Jan 12

Laurence1988 says...

mk till i die wrote:
rob_c wrote:
Are those spelling errors Stuart Crosbie's or the Guardian's? Either way, I think it would be polite to correct them in the quote!
AFC are so sad by keep moaning about the MK Dons, if they loved their club so much then why didnt they fight to keep the club instead of lying down and letting it go, if i remember right they used to play at plough lane but sold that off for redevelopment and moved in to selhurst park, then they was talking of moving to ireland so much for being loyal. we sit next to some of the wimbledon fans that have embraced the move to MK so AFC grow up and shut up
Oh dear - are you really believing the hype?

Plough Lane was sold off by Sam Hammam from under the supporters without our or the share holders permission (I was a share holder too); we were also forced to vacate same by Sam Hammam under spurious claims based on the Taylor Report.

We subsequently proved that Hammam was factually incorrect in his claims, since the Football League and then the Premier League would have let the club continue at Plough Lane and redevelop said stadium to the right standards, whilst retaining our status.

In fact we even revealed the ability to create a 22,000 all seat stadia for the site in 2001, which would have had a greater capacity than Loftus Road, where QPR play.

So let's not lies get in the way of a good story, shall we?

The move to Eire was promoted by Hammam too, nothing again to do with the supporters, who campaigned against that in 1997 and successfully fought it off. BTW I should know, I led the campaign together with three friends, being the founders of WISA.

You may wish to ask your friends about me - I am real, and I use my real name, unlike your nom de plume.

Finally, I don't moan about Franchise FC, I have no need to.
[quote][p][bold]mk till i die[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rob_c[/bold] wrote: Are those spelling errors Stuart Crosbie's or the Guardian's? Either way, I think it would be polite to correct them in the quote![/p][/quote]AFC are so sad by keep moaning about the MK Dons, if they loved their club so much then why didnt they fight to keep the club instead of lying down and letting it go, if i remember right they used to play at plough lane but sold that off for redevelopment and moved in to selhurst park, then they was talking of moving to ireland so much for being loyal. we sit next to some of the wimbledon fans that have embraced the move to MK so AFC grow up and shut up[/p][/quote]Oh dear - are you really believing the hype? Plough Lane was sold off by Sam Hammam from under the supporters without our or the share holders permission (I was a share holder too); we were also forced to vacate same by Sam Hammam under spurious claims based on the Taylor Report. We subsequently proved that Hammam was factually incorrect in his claims, since the Football League and then the Premier League would have let the club continue at Plough Lane and redevelop said stadium to the right standards, whilst retaining our status. In fact we even revealed the ability to create a 22,000 all seat stadia for the site in 2001, which would have had a greater capacity than Loftus Road, where QPR play. So let's not lies get in the way of a good story, shall we? The move to Eire was promoted by Hammam too, nothing again to do with the supporters, who campaigned against that in 1997 and successfully fought it off. BTW I should know, I led the campaign together with three friends, being the founders of WISA. You may wish to ask your friends about me - I am real, and I use my real name, unlike your nom de plume. Finally, I don't moan about Franchise FC, I have no need to. Laurence1988
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7:51am Sat 21 Jan 12

Laurence1988 says...

Scouse_DB wrote:
OK, listen you bunch of southern softies. wimbleDON or lonDON.

I think MK has every right to call themselves MK DONS due to the fact that it was an overspill from (wait for it) lon DON.

End of. You have no argument anymore. Cease and disperse. If you want another view from the sartirical side of things, you'd be a better person for seeking out this piece of archive (note to BW - you get a mention my love): http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=jbSroNAJu

5k&sns=em

Most of MK support a premier team just like all of lon DON. But their second teams aren't in the premiership!
Lon DON is not the origin of the Dons.

If you knew your history, you would understand the origin of the nickname, but I suspect it may not have occured to look a little further back to the origins of the club?

Good try though. :o)
[quote][p][bold]Scouse_DB[/bold] wrote: OK, listen you bunch of southern softies. wimbleDON or lonDON. I think MK has every right to call themselves MK DONS due to the fact that it was an overspill from (wait for it) lon DON. End of. You have no argument anymore. Cease and disperse. If you want another view from the sartirical side of things, you'd be a better person for seeking out this piece of archive (note to BW - you get a mention my love): http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=jbSroNAJu 5k&sns=em Most of MK support a premier team just like all of lon DON. But their second teams aren't in the premiership![/p][/quote]Lon DON is not the origin of the Dons. If you knew your history, you would understand the origin of the nickname, but I suspect it may not have occured to look a little further back to the origins of the club? Good try though. :o) Laurence1988
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10:41am Sat 21 Jan 12

stony bloke says...

Laurence1988
Thank you. At last someone who sticks to the facts. You accept that the blame for Wimbledon's predicament lies at the feet of Hammam. So why all the dirge directed at MK Dons fans? The problem lay within the club. And please, show a bit of maturity. You can say MK Dons, you know, not this 'franchise' nonsense, a misnomer if ever I saw one.
Laurence1988 Thank you. At last someone who sticks to the facts. You accept that the blame for Wimbledon's predicament lies at the feet of Hammam. So why all the dirge directed at MK Dons fans? The problem lay within the club. And please, show a bit of maturity. You can say MK Dons, you know, not this 'franchise' nonsense, a misnomer if ever I saw one. stony bloke
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9:54am Sun 22 Jan 12

Laurence1988 says...

stony bloke wrote:
Laurence1988
Thank you. At last someone who sticks to the facts. You accept that the blame for Wimbledon's predicament lies at the feet of Hammam. So why all the dirge directed at MK Dons fans? The problem lay within the club. And please, show a bit of maturity. You can say MK Dons, you know, not this 'franchise' nonsense, a misnomer if ever I saw one.
I am happy to stick with Franchise FC, thank you, and yes, I am very mature, so less of the patronising comments, please?

And why the dislike?

Very simple, Franchise customers are handling stolen goods.
[quote][p][bold]stony bloke[/bold] wrote: Laurence1988 Thank you. At last someone who sticks to the facts. You accept that the blame for Wimbledon's predicament lies at the feet of Hammam. So why all the dirge directed at MK Dons fans? The problem lay within the club. And please, show a bit of maturity. You can say MK Dons, you know, not this 'franchise' nonsense, a misnomer if ever I saw one.[/p][/quote]I am happy to stick with Franchise FC, thank you, and yes, I am very mature, so less of the patronising comments, please? And why the dislike? Very simple, Franchise customers are handling stolen goods. Laurence1988
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10:05am Sun 22 Jan 12

Wimbledon Womble says...

Hahaha why don't the mk scum just give up you know your in the wrong and Laurence1988 is proving that every single time so just drop the dons and he won't have to keep destroying all of your misfounded arguments
Hahaha why don't the mk scum just give up you know your in the wrong and Laurence1988 is proving that every single time so just drop the dons and he won't have to keep destroying all of your misfounded arguments Wimbledon Womble
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1:16pm Sun 22 Jan 12

BathWomble says...

stony bloke wrote:
Laurence1988
Thank you. At last someone who sticks to the facts. You accept that the blame for Wimbledon's predicament lies at the feet of Hammam. So why all the dirge directed at MK Dons fans? The problem lay within the club. And please, show a bit of maturity. You can say MK Dons, you know, not this 'franchise' nonsense, a misnomer if ever I saw one.
The world is a complex place, there are many causes for situations, not just one. Hammam initiated some big problems for the club. However, having a property dealer from MK rock up with a £50m 'free' stadium offer caused massive problems! The ludicrous attempts to whitewash Winkelman do Franchise customers no favours at all. It's time Franchise customers accepted Winkelman's part in destroying Wimbledon FC and showed some respect towards it by dropping the 'Dons' tag.
[quote][p][bold]stony bloke[/bold] wrote: Laurence1988 Thank you. At last someone who sticks to the facts. You accept that the blame for Wimbledon's predicament lies at the feet of Hammam. So why all the dirge directed at MK Dons fans? The problem lay within the club. And please, show a bit of maturity. You can say MK Dons, you know, not this 'franchise' nonsense, a misnomer if ever I saw one.[/p][/quote]The world is a complex place, there are many causes for situations, not just one. Hammam initiated some big problems for the club. However, having a property dealer from MK rock up with a £50m 'free' stadium offer caused massive problems! The ludicrous attempts to whitewash Winkelman do Franchise customers no favours at all. It's time Franchise customers accepted Winkelman's part in destroying Wimbledon FC and showed some respect towards it by dropping the 'Dons' tag. BathWomble
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4:45pm Tue 24 Jan 12

Angela M says...

As someone who doesn't understand football at all, can someone please explain what constitutes a 'team'?

If the players and managers etc have been swapped and changed over the years, surely the only things that define the identity of a team is the town or borough in which it is based and the fans who support it?

With one team relocated miles away with a new name, and another team created to fill the geographical void that the first one left behind, surely the latter has more claim to the Wimbledon history?

I'm sure neither team features the original Wimbledon FC line-up, so the question is, which team has the most support from fans of the old Wimbledon FC?
As someone who doesn't understand football at all, can someone please explain what constitutes a 'team'? If the players and managers etc have been swapped and changed over the years, surely the only things that define the identity of a team is the town or borough in which it is based and the fans who support it? With one team relocated miles away with a new name, and another team created to fill the geographical void that the first one left behind, surely the latter has more claim to the Wimbledon history? I'm sure neither team features the original Wimbledon FC line-up, so the question is, which team has the most support from fans of the old Wimbledon FC? Angela M
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